jesterisdead Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Well I used to think I was computer and network Davy. Key two words are "used to". After an hour tonight trying to configure the local adaptor on my W7 cpu to access the controller I quit. Will try again tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin1300 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 You've got plenty of nerds around here! How are you trying to connect and what problem you having? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin1300 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Check out pages 17-19, should get you straightened out on the connection: http://www.neptunesystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Comprehensive-Reference-Manual.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefhappy Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Wouldn't consider myself a nerd (well maybe a closet nerd wannabe) if you need a hand configuring. I could swing by and give you a hand with getting it up and configuring profiles and outlets, if you need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterisdead Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I have an Ethernet connection to the controller. The indicators say I'm connected to an unknown network but when I launch the interface I get a "can't connect" error. Ill try again before I cry mercy. Thanks Shane and Dustin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefhappy Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Leonard, If you end up wanting some help, just give me a call or text 317-373-1292 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterisdead Posted March 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Ok I'm stumped. Directions say plug into controller then other set say plug into router. Going to try a router but I should be able to telnet directly into the stupid thing. On top of dealing with the controller set up issue Ive got a puffer that looks like a snake pelling. One more freakin thing to deal with ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefhappy Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 If you have had a problem finding anything on the skin loss.... see if this seems like what you have.. only thing I have read that will cause that so, without a pic is my best guess. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_in_the_head_disease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefhappy Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Ok I'm stumped. Directions say plug into controller then other set say plug into router. Going to try a router but I should be able to telnet directly into the stupid thing. On top of dealing with the controller set up issue Ive got a puffer that looks like a snake pelling. One more freakin thing to deal with ....... You will need to plug the base unit ethernet into a router and then you can use your IP to log in If I remember right the default is 192.168.0.50:80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin1300 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Close but it should be 192.168.1.50:80. Should theoretically be able to use http://apex without the IP/Port as long as DNS is working right on your network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefhappy Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Close but it should be 192.168.1.50:80. Should theoretically be able to use http://apex without the IP/Port as long as DNS is working right on your network. dang it , i knew that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefhappy Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Oh and if you do not have a router near your tank and a hard wire is not feasible.... I have been using one of these for 6 months with no issues, As a bonus I get a better/faster connection for my laptop and smart tv http://www.walmart.com/ip/NETGEAR-Universal-Wi-Fi-Range-Extender/16636647 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterisdead Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I have a wireless home network and I cant hard wired right now. I'll like the wifi extender option you posted Shane. I guess what my problem has been is that I'm trying to connect directly to the apex controller thru my LAN port. I should be able to do that with no issue but I can't get them to talk. My router is two rooms away so wireless will be ideal for now until I get some CAT6 ran from the network hub to where my tank is currently at. Dustin I just can't understand why I can't telnet to the box by plugging directly into the controller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefhappy Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 The base unit has to be hardwired to either your router or an extender to connect to it. It does not have built in wifi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterisdead Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 No I have an ethernet cable running from my cpu LAN ethernet port to the controller. It should work with a telnet connection (old hyperterminal for example) and its not working. I'm going to Best Buy tomorrow ( i have $20 credit) and will use it to get the connection to see if it helps. I would like to get it up and running before I leave for springbreak as I can help my sitter make the proper adjustments as I can monitor it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willy Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 You can also get an inexpensive router(one that is bridge mode capable) set in bridge mode and have that router next to your tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefhappy Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Everything I have read says it needs to be connected to a router Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogum99 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Telnet uses a crossover cable right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin1300 Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Sorry, just looking back at this. Sounds like your problem is you're using a straight through network cable to connect to the Apex by connecting straight from your NIC to the Apex. To do this, you'd have to use a crossover cable (For connecting two like devices. i.e. Apex to Computer, Switch to Switch, etc). Easier option would be for you to use your cable you already have and plug it into your "Router" (It's really a switch that you'd use for this but won't go there ). To answer Doug's questions, Telnet does not require crossover but if you're connecting two like devices then that cable is req'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterisdead Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 I was getting up conflicts so I changed them as I wasn't on a WAN so I couldn't figure out why I couldn't just plug in and go. I'm getting a wireless switch today so ill get them working. I might as well get everything set up properly and get the lights mounted this week since the supply is going out on my marineland. I'm going to check with them this week as well about getting a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterisdead Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Got controller running. Now just need to get it mounted and start reading directions. I had it hooked up on the floor and messing with it but lights only pulsed. I just started but not sure if the lights should be hooked up to the aquabuse or not so just disconnected everything and will mount the controller and the buds. Right now I don't know where to mount it. It says above the tank but my wife will kill me if I mount it on wall. I probably should punch a hole in wall and mount it in garage but then what? I take a picture and post it and get feedback from you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefhappy Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 I have mine under my stand up high and screwed to a board. If you do not have the room, The garage would be a good spot. To plug in just plug in your EB8 and then run an aquabus cable from the EB8 to the main module. Then the ethernet cable from the lights to the Vari ports on the main module, and plug the three cords into your EB8. I did Moonlights to 1-5.... Blues 2-6.... Whites 3-6... also left to right the plugs are moon, blue, white. Here is just a guide line to set up profiles and VAR ports. Profiles to set up Name WH_RampU Type Ramp Ramp Time 120 Start 10 End 60 Name WH_RampD Type Ramp Ramp Time 120 Start 60 End 0 Name WH_Mid Type Ramp Ramp Time 0 Start 60 End 60 Name BL_RampU Type Ramp Ramp Time 120 Start 20 End 70 Name BL_RampD Type Ramp Ramp Time 120 Start 70 End 0 Name BL_Mid Type Ramp Ramp Time 0 Start 70 End 70 Then set your Var settings VAR1 BL_Var1 Control Type Advanced Set OFFIf Time 08:00 to 10:00 Then BL_RampUIf Time 10:00 to 18:00 Then BL_MIDIf Time 18:00 to 20:00 Then BL_RampD VAR2 WH_Var2 Control Type Advanced Set OFFIf Time 10:00 to 12:00 Then WH_RampUIf Time 12:00 to 17:00 Then WH_MIDIf Time 17:00 to 19:00 Then WH_RampD If you are using both ports and not a splitter< i believe you will also have to set up Var3, 4... Make 3 the same as 1 and 4 the same as 2. Hope I have done this where you get the idea??? From here it is just setting up your outlets, if you need any help with them... Just let us know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterisdead Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Great! Hope to get back to it tonight. Thought about a big Tupperware container for water protection under my cabinet. Mount the container then mount the controller inside. Silicon around it and have a strip cut out of the bottom for the cables and should make it nice and secure from water but able to get air from slot in bottom. Same with the aquabus. Stopping off at Lowe's tonight for woodscrews (shorter) and same black split tube for cables. Mounting lights I'm still thinking but would like to get the probes in the water and running. So if I use the aquabus sockets for the lights theytake up six and it leaves me with only two open for jets of which I have three currently. I want to set it up for a feeding cycle to turn jets off while feeding and chem treatments. That sorta sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefhappy Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Thats easy use a short extension cord with multiple outlets, I run 4 on two of my outlets.... you almost have to have your lights plugged into the EB8 so you can shut them down, if they have juice going to them they will run the fans 24/7. You may at some point want to add another EB8, That is what I did just so it was easier to shut down return pump and skimmer while feeding. Then my heaters for a backup to the one that is on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefhappy Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 that or a timer strip for your lights would work. that way you can still shut them down and then save your control plugs for heaters, return, skimmer, and pumps. The VAR is what will turn your lights on and off but the outlet has to cut juice to them after your turn off time. If that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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