ReefPsyco Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 EDIT. 2:43pm. I want it very Clear. NO SELLER HAD BAD CORAL> THIS IS SOME SORT OF STUPID MISTAKE I DID>WHAT though is the question. i purchased more than 300.00 worth of coral at fragswap. Nothing is looking healthy and I do not understand why. I have checked all my parameters and there good to go. My blue tabling acro was first to go with that rapid tissue deses or whatever it’s called. It was almost the instant it hit my display tank. Same for all the others. and I bought mostly acros. The other corals that have been in my display are just fine. I do not understand. I know whats going on is a idiot mistake but what one? I dipped in coralx and let them sit in qt then i acclimated. i am so distrot over the nightmare i am witnessing I would love to save some of them but not know what to do. I know it may be a drive for most to come to me but i would be more then happy to make it worth your while to help me out. Please. EDIT. I take that back. One of my beloved Bridsnest is not happy either and thats a coral i have had for some time now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noodlenugs Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Can we get a pic of their location in the tank? Temperature? Lighting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReefPsyco Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 80F LED 14k white have been running this light for a while never had issue before and i maintain the same temperature constant. One moment on pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noodlenugs Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Are the other corals in your tank SPS? The 80f LED, is that a screw in bulb in a pendant? I am not familiar with that light, who is the manufacturer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReefPsyco Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 blue acro All Green slimer Ranbow acro previous inhabitant doing just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReefPsyco Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Sorry for the confusion 80f is temperature the lighting is DIY led at 14k White. 25 leds per 35 gallons 50 leds total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReefPsyco Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Sorry the pictures are not the best its my iphone. Still hunting for a dslr body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noodlenugs Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 This may be completely wrong to do so you may wait for others to chime in, but, if not a water quality issue, I would move them up front and center under your lights. I am afraid that it may be too late for some of them in the picture and for them to RTN that quickly screams something in the water. Without being there to test it is very hard to tell. I have never seen a frag die like that, that quickly without an obvious problem. Or a bad or previously dying coral. What tissue was left that I could see it didnt look like that was the case though and eveyones live stock looked really healthy. Did they get very cold on your way home or anything? Other than that we may need to see what others have to say when they read this thread. Good Luck and sorry to hear your problem...You may want to do a water change in case something got in there that is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReefPsyco Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 This may be completely wrong to do so you may wait for others to chime in, but, if not a water quality issue, I would move them up front and center under your lights. I am afraid that it may be too late for some of them in the picture and for them to RTN that quickly screams something in the water. Without being there to test it is very hard to tell. I have never seen a frag die like that, that quickly without an obvious problem. Or a bad or previously dying coral. What tissue was left that I could see it didnt look like that was the case though and eveyones live stock looked really healthy. Did they get very cold on your way home or anything? Other than that we may need to see what others have to say when they read this thread. Good Luck and sorry to hear your problem...You may want to do a water change in case something got in there that is not good. On the cold factor that was something that worried me I purchased them all at about noon to 1 I did not get home till like 6 pm and they was unfurtantely ALL very cold. even though i put them in cooler. and yes I point no fingers at ANY seller. I know its something i did wrong just trying to pin point it to try and save them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReefPsyco Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I just did another test and again everything is perfect. I as well made sure the dates was good on my testing kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefhead Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 what is your alk and calc? how established is your current tank water? did you use any heat packs during the 5 or 6 hours? i would cut any and all pieces that have started to loose flesh until there is not white left. i have seen this happen in sps, mainly acros before to other people after swaps. possibly a quick change in params from two different tanks. was the coralrx used as directed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReefPsyco Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Tank water about 2 years old established. (just moved from tank to tank) No heat packs. coralx was used to a T. I read the instruction three times before doing anything. Give me a Few minutes I will give you calc and alk Cut the white off? so in other words re frag on most the dead is below the good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReefPsyco Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 calc is 480 alk is 300 maybe a bit higher these are based on API test kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReefPsyco Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 done a tetra easy step 6-1 also here is its readings nitrate 0 nitrite 0 alk 300 ph 8.4-8.5 going to do more test have many test kits going to run them all to be extremely anual about the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReefPsyco Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 same results for 5 test in one quick dip nitrate and nitrite 0 alk 300 ph 8.4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReefPsyco Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 going to O3 now O3 is 0 test was mini lab test red sea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msr224 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I would get some carbon in a bag and get it in there to try and help remove any toxins that may have been introduced..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReefPsyco Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I would get some carbon in a bag and get it in there to try and help remove any toxins that may have been introduced..... Excelent idea BRB running to store to get some carbon will through it in my magnum 350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msr224 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I'm not that far. Let me know if you need any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReefPsyco Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I'm not that far. Let me know if you need any help. I would love help but not sure what i need help with especialy when i do not know what the problem is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReefPsyco Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 OMG. It was brought to my attention to check one thing that I assume we ALL do not look at very often. Salinity. Mine is at 1.020 that to me is danger level. I assume its the culperate to the problem as well.? Any one have any ideas how to saely raise my salinity in a fast maner or if it could be the cause to all the problems? Thank you scott for the idea there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Willy Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Alk is high, Calcium is high salinity is low. Did you do any acclimation or did you just drop them in the tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReefRider Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 I would love help but not sure what i need help with especialy when i do not know what the problem is. I recommend doing about a 25% Water Change. How's your Magnesium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdebord Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 My first though is salinity, alkalinity. phosphates.. SPS, especially the more sensitive Acros, will RTN die if alkalinity is changed too rapidly. You said your alk is 300? This value makes no sense to me.. 300 ppm? If so, 200 ppm is on the high end of an acceptable value. 300 ppm is off the charts high and has to be contributing to the problem. Changing alk +/- 1 dkh per 24hrs is asking for trouble.. Also what are your phosphate levels? Keep in mind that rapidly changing any value at this point is just going to cause more stress to those inhabitants that are not problematic and will likely just cause more problems. For those already RTN'ing it's probably already too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdebord Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Ugh, just read the second page of the tread. Yea, it's probably the salinity. Be careful about pushing it back up too fast. It won't help to push it back up to where it should be too fast. You will just add more stress. How did it get so low? And how long has it been this way? Have your confirmed the low reading with a second measuring device, calibration solution, hobbyist, trusted fish store, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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