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#1 Scuba Dan

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:39 AM

Premium Aquatics set me up using SeaChem reef salt when I first purchased my salt and I have heard through the grape vine that they aren't carrying this salt any longer. Honestly I hadn't done any research on salt before I made this purchase. I just went with P.A.'s suggestion. I have a 180 with a 40gal sump/refugium. For now my tank is stocked very lightly. 5 chromis, a small clean up crew and a hand full of corals. Some day I would like to get it heavily stocked with every type of life I can get to fit in it ;)

What kind of salt for reef tanks is most popular? Cheapest? Low Boramine? Salts to stay away from?

I've recently read an article on Boramine being used as a chemical additive to control PH (since boramine can contribute to Alkalinity) in Saltwater salts. From the same article I got that our tanks don't use Boramine at all and a build up can occur over time. (Although I didn't catch what happens when that build up occurs) Has anybody else heard of this?

Last point - I am starting to dabble in additives. I am adding Baking Soda and Purple up to keep my Alk in check and up my Calcium. Any thoughts would be appreciated :)

#2 Jaco

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:50 PM

I have heard bad things about Purple Up. When I was there Saturday, Premium still had the SeaChem.

I used Kent Marine on my last batch water change. I use to use Red Sea Coral Pro. Both salts are fine to me and mix really quickly.

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#3 SJGreene

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 02:14 PM

For Alk and Calcium, seems like most people use some sort of 2 part system. B-ionic is a decent commercial product and I have used it before in the past with good results. Depending on your tank's Ca needs, this could become expense though.

A lot of others use one of Randy's DIY two part solutions. (Do a quick search - Randy Holmes-Farley). There are all sorts of ways you can do this fully DIY. I switched over to this method a couple of years ago, but I buy my DIY 2 part products from Bulk Reef Supply.


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#4 Msr224

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 03:15 PM

BRS bases their 3 part and 2 part dosing off of Randy's recipe.

As for the salt it's a matter of preference for a lot of people. I'm pretty sure a lot of people on INDMAS use Instant Ocean. I use Reef Crystals (made by instant ocean).

If you don't have a lot of corals then you aren't going to need to do a lot of dosing or adjusting if you do regular WC.

I would stay away from the purple up as it's just a form of dissolved aragonite (Calcium Carbonate). You can achieve more consistent results watching Alk, Cal and Mag and keeping them rock solid all the time than you ever will with a single additive.

Here is an article by Randy holmes-Farley on the subject.

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#5 dogum99

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 04:46 PM

I switched from red sea coral pro salt about a year ago and tried seachem for awhile I just switched back about 3-4 months ago. Holly likes to use tropic marin but it's pricey.
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#6 sdebord

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 05:50 PM

Instant Ocean here. Reef Crystals is okay too if you mix and use within a day or two. RC has added vitamins and such which make it less stable and increase unwanted bacterial growth with long term storage. IO has always given me everything I need in a starting point from a salt mix. Over time, especially if not doing frequent sizable water changes, your water becomes more what your animals, food, and additives make of it, and less of what your salt mix ingredients are. Just my opinion though!
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#7 sdebord

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 05:51 PM

Oh and IO is cheap and available nearly everywhere. It's easy to find in a pinch, or on sale even at times.
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#8 rms5613

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 06:26 PM

We have used Instant Ocean exclusivly for years. I have tested many a salts and they are all about the same. Yes I know some tout more of this and more of that. Find one you like and stick to it. Dont bounce from brand to brand. If you want seachem salt I am sure we can get it for you. Just let us know.

#9 Scuba Dan

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 07:08 PM

Thanks for the input guys. It sounds like I will just switch to the instant ocean. I'm also glad I got the purple up for free lol

#10 Dustin1300

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 08:09 PM

Like others have said, don't worry too much about it right now with what you have. As you dabble with corals more you'll want a descent salt or I'd recommend buffering it to levels that match your tank if you do large changes. I do small water changes throughout day using an LMIII and have been using Red Sea Coral Pro which I think is fairly priced and readily available. Only complaint about it is that over time get some buildup in my Brute 44...Just gave the bottom of my Brute a good scrubbing this weekend to wash away the buildup after about 7 months of use and quite a few buckets. Just stick with what you like and keep it consistent. As Steve said, your additives and other husbandry have a larger effect.

I did a poll on RC late last year and IO came out to ~49% of the 154 votes. Second seemed to be the Red Sea Coral Pro I'm currently using...

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#11 plantguy

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 09:35 PM

There's no problem with availability on the Reef Salt from Seachem that I have heard of, don't know who told you that, but we have pallets worth. We run out occasionally when someone gobbles up a whole pallet, but that's usually only for a couple days at most as we have a local distributor that keeps +/-10 pallets of it on hand. No worries there....

As far as whats "Best" that's a whole other ball of worms...

Personally, I use Tropic Marin, as it mixes up perfectly to keep things in range on my system without having to doctor up the water before I use it, and I have never seen anything build up in the bottom of my mixing vat. Ill pay a little extra for that convenience alone.

The other thing I like, is that it hasnt changed a bit since I started using it, many of the others have radically changed their mixes as cost and availability and shipping costs of certain salts changed, so pretty much all the salt tests that were done more than say two years ago, you can pretty much ignore at this point, put your trust in good test kits, not the internetz. ;) One neat thing that Seachem does with their Salinity salt is they attach a lot# to every bucket, and you can look that lot# up on a website to see the test results from tests performed by the University of Georgia.

Seachem and IO (Seachem Reef, Seachem Marine, Instant Ocean, and Reef crystals) are made in the same location (Aquarium Systems), (the Seachem Salinity is actually made in Seachem's Stone Mtn facility, the reef and marine will be made there soon. There may be a slight slow down while they make that switch, but I doubt it would be anything felt on the retail level.)

DD+ and RedSea both come from Israel, as byproducts of the Saltwater Steam Desalination plants they use for their drinking water, it makes nice clean drinking water, and piles, and piles of salt daily. They both add some buffering and other tidbits, and mix it up. (Both work well, but I have had issues with consistency from lot to lot)

TM is mixed in germany, regular, pro, and Bioactiv. (Germans LOVE their chems)

Kent and Oceanic are made in the same spot. (Havent used either in years...)

Brightwell is mixed up by evil elves that like to inflict pain. (Ever gotten that stuff on sweaty forearms?)

ESV is made here in the US on the East coast. (Great salt! But I'm Lazy)

At the end of the day, all these salts will work well, how well depends on exactly what you are trying to do. Find one, stick with it, and only change if you have to, and pay more attention to keeping Alk, Cal, and Mag in shape, use good feed, and keep up with the maintenance as others have said, and it won't matter so much. ;)
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#12 Willy

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 09:37 PM

What ever salt you use, test each new bucket after you mix it. they can and do vary from bucket to bucket.
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#13 Dustin1300

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 09:10 AM

What ever salt you use, test each new bucket after you mix it. they can and do vary from bucket to bucket.


+100. While this might be a bit of a hassle...Easily worth it and I typically just do a check of alk, calcium, and mag.

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#14 Scuba Dan

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 02:18 PM

That's awesome plant guy! Brightwell it is lol and I'm glad to hear that Seachem will still be at P.A.

#15 sport507

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:14 AM

I use Instant Ocean Reef Crystals. I have had great success with it for the passed 2 years.
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